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Jason31090
03-06-2010, 12:12 PM
So mods can move this if it's in the wrong section. This seemed like the most sensible place to post.

I just wanted/needed a full list of what extra cost come with getting a bike so I know kinda $$$ I need this year.

So far I have:

1.Bike, paying X amount of dollars for it. then comes a tune up if it needs one. also for X amount of dollars. Body work and paint may apply.

1. Helmet. $300+?

2. Riding gloves. $100+?

1. Jacket. $500-700?

2. Boots/shoes. $100- already priced @ local shop.

0 mods. well...maybe yoshi pipe. ;)

Now I know some of you are thinking "Good job r-tard you know what comes with a bike." Just making sure I didn't miss anything.

JRMMiii
03-06-2010, 12:15 PM
1.Bike, paying X amount of dollars for it. then comes a tune up if it needs one. also for X amount of dollars. Body work and paint may apply.

1. Helmet. $300+?

2. Riding gloves. $100+?

1. Jacket. $500-700?

2. Boots/shoes. $100- already priced @ local shop.

0 mods. well...maybe yoshi pipe. ;)

Now I know some of you are thinking "Good job r-tard you know what comes with a bike." Just making sure I didn't miss anything.

Did you go to public school? Most of my lists are either up or down.... not 1,1,2,1,2 :wtf:. :lol: 'r-tard'

OsuMj
03-06-2010, 12:17 PM
you could add pants to that list... ?
insurance :p

OsuMj
03-06-2010, 12:18 PM
Did you go to public school? Most of my lists are either up or down.... not 1,1,2,1,2 :wtf:. :lol: 'r-tard'

:lol: i saw that too, but chose to be nice. :p

JRMMiii
03-06-2010, 12:20 PM
Being nice is the harder choice... life's hard enough without being nice. :D

:lol: @ insurance. Take note STi-man, that's usually been pretty big issue around here in the past.

John
03-06-2010, 12:20 PM
pants

gergzla
03-06-2010, 12:25 PM
I think he meant he's buying 2 boots, 2 gloves, 1 helmet, 1 jacket??? lol

blackgsxr1000
03-06-2010, 12:29 PM
Welcome to the fourm its nice to have another Suby guy around, I used to have an 05 STi. Insurance is a ball buster so take note and also I would never pay 100 bucks for a pair of gloves, you can find a nice pair for 50

Jason31090
03-06-2010, 12:30 PM
Thanks guys, in a perfect world we should be able to count like that. I'm sure you understood what the numbers meant.

I had already marked down insurance, sales tax on the bike, things like that.

I can add pants to the list too. I didn't know riding pants were required.

Jason31090
03-06-2010, 12:33 PM
I think he meant he's buying 2 boots, 2 gloves, 1 helmet, 1 jacket??? lol

There we go.

Welcome to the fourm its nice to have another Suby guy around, I used to have an 05 STi. Insurance is a ball buster so take note and also I would never pay 100 bucks for a pair of gloves, you can find a nice pair for 50

I don't think my insurance could be any higher right now. Oh well, this will be well worth it.

I was just throwing out a price of what I thought gloves would cost. Thanks :)

JRMMiii
03-06-2010, 12:35 PM
Nothing is required, except insurance (by law).

The rest is really for us - we're selfish.
When we're riding with you, I don't want to come into a turn hot only to find out you've stained it with blood and caused me to wreck too.

Pants are just a good idea, but unless I'm on a trackday I usually am geared up with everything BUT pants - so I'm going to be a hypocrite and not practice what I preach.

jporter12
03-06-2010, 12:37 PM
Helmet, gloves, jacket and pants, after insurance and license.

DO NOT ride without license or insurance, and do not ride without gear.

You can get some of the gear for less, but the more you can afford the better. I have around $100 in a Snell 2005 approved helmet, about $150 in a textile jacket with shoulder and elbow protection, about $50 in a pair of summer gloves, about $100 in colder weather gloves, about $ 130 in textile pants.

Catman
03-06-2010, 12:41 PM
Tires, tires and more tires !!

jporter12
03-06-2010, 12:44 PM
Nothing is required, except insurance (by law).

Eye protection is required, and if you just have a learner's permit, or a license for less than a year, a helmet is required.

The rest is really for us - we're selfish.
When we're riding with you, I don't want to come into a turn hot only to find out you've stained it with blood and caused me to wreck too.

Nice way to put it!

Pants are just a good idea, but unless I'm on a trackday I usually am geared up with everything BUT pants - so I'm going to be a hypocrite and not practice what I preach.

I usually only put on the riding pants when I'm going for a long, or more spirited ride.

ReconRat
03-06-2010, 12:54 PM
yeah, what Catman said. If it's a used bike, tires soon, and if not, tires by next year sometime. Ask around, about insurance rates now. You'll find some bikes are a lot cheaper to insure. And some are a lot more. Gear doesn't have to cost a fortune. But it has to do the job you have in mind. You don't need race track gear on the street unless you're confusing street with race track. (I'll catch Hell for saying that.) You do need a good helmet and gloves and boots. Followed by a jacket with armor in it. Textile or leather, whatever you think won't be too hot in the Summer. Some jackets flow a lot more air through them then you would think. Look around for some bargains, maybe last year's model of some gear. Every one of us has probably used each of those at least once to save our skin. I would even get the jacket before fancy boots. High top work boots or combat boots will work.

Minimum costs:
insurance: depends on your age, your record and which bike
tires: probably at least one rear tire - 120 to 200 (there will be more)
helmet: 120-200 for a starter helmet (there will be more)
gloves: 20 to 60 bucks - gel pads and double leather, but not armored (there will be more)
jacket: 100 to 180 for first jacket (there will be more)
boots: Whatever makes you happy: 20 to 200 (there will be more)

edit: I'm at the point where I want to add armored pants or under armor. (Kevlar minimum) More money to spend.
I have no idea how I rode for so many years with so little protection. But this stuff wasn't around back then. I appreciate that it is available now. And it does work to protect.

jporter12
03-06-2010, 01:01 PM
I would even get the jacket before fancy boots. High top work boots or combat boots will work.

Oh yeah, I use my work boots for riding.

Earache
03-06-2010, 01:07 PM
Good to see a noob thinking ahead and planning to get some gear before he rides.
He can't count for shit, but at least he's thinking!

I applaud your effort, STI. Good one.

RFM
03-06-2010, 01:11 PM
1 Tank top
2 Flip flops
1 Cut-off pair of jeans
1 Gold chain
1 Pair of sweet Foster Grants

That covers it.

John
03-06-2010, 01:16 PM
1 Tank top
2 Flip flops
1 Cut-off pair of jeans
1 Gold chain
1 Pair of sweet Foster Grants

That covers it.


you forgot the corona tank top. its the key safety element.

http://obairlann.net/reaper/motorcycle/corona.html

ReconRat
03-06-2010, 01:17 PM
Part of the story is: If this is your first bike, or even your first bigger/faster bike, or even just a new bike you aren't familiar with yet... You'll want to take it easy the first year, until you experience and deal with some of the surprises that will certainly happen.

So gear varies with experience and survival rate, but we don't want to be squids and ride naked.

John
03-06-2010, 01:18 PM
Eye protection is required, and if you just have a learner's permit, or a license for less than a year, a helmet is required.

yup. you could ride naked if you want, but you better have eye protection.

Jason31090
03-06-2010, 01:30 PM
When we're riding with you, I don't want to come into a turn hot only to find out you've stained it with blood and caused me to wreck too.


thats a lot of blood :eek:



DO NOT ride without license or insurance, and do not ride without gear.

You can get some of the gear for less, but the more you can afford the better. I have around $100 in a Snell 2005 approved helmet, about $150 in a textile jacket with shoulder and elbow protection, about $50 in a pair of summer gloves, about $100 in colder weather gloves, about $ 130 in textile pants.

Yeah, I'll for sure be riding with L's and I's. I don't want to spend a shit ton, just something of good quality that will keep me safe.

yeah, what Catman said. If it's a used bike, tires soon, and if not, tires by next year sometime. Ask around, about insurance rates now. You'll find some bikes are a lot cheaper to insure. And some are a lot more. Gear doesn't have to cost a fortune. But it has to do the job you have in mind. You don't need race track gear on the street unless you're confusing street with race track. (I'll catch Hell for saying that.) You do need a good helmet and gloves and boots. Followed by a jacket with armor in it Textile or leather, whatever you think won't be too hot in the Summer. Some jackets flow a lot more air through them then you would think. Look around for some bargains, maybe last year's model of some gear. Every one of us has probably used each of those at least once to save our skin. I would even get the jacket before fancy boots. High top work boots or combat boots will work.

Minimum costs:
insurance: depends on your age, your record and which bike
tires: probably at least one rear tire - 120 to 200 (there will be more)
helmet: 120-200 for a starter helmet (there will be more)
gloves: 20 to 60 bucks - gel pads and double leather, but not armored (there will be more)
jacket: 100 to 180 for first jacket (there will be more)
boots: Whatever makes you happy: 20 to 200 (there will be more)

edit: I'm at the point where I want to add armored pants or under armor. (Kevlar minimum) More money to spend.
I have no idea how I rode for so many years with so little protection. But this stuff wasn't around back then. I appreciate that it is available now. And it does work to protect.

^ All very helpful, thanks much.

Good to see a noob thinking ahead and planning to get some gear before he rides.
He can't count for shit, but at least he's thinking!

I applaud your effort, STI. Good one.

Yeah not trying to be road pizza in my first year of riding.

natedogg624
03-06-2010, 02:20 PM
make sure you actually get your necessary gear first before your bike.

i've had a few friends who bought the bike first and in doing so didn't have have enough money left over to spend on their gear.

Likwid
03-06-2010, 04:05 PM
Like others said, insurance

If you're on temps, helmet

The rest is optional, pants I'd put after gloves and a jacket. Don't skimp on the jacket, you'll probably have that the longest.

Bad324
03-06-2010, 04:10 PM
A sound mindset, meaning don't get yourself in over your head by riding too fast or crazy too soon

I'm a relatively new rider and was in the same boat last fall and you just got to take it easy and make sure you are very comfortable with your bike and the road and always anticipate nobody on the road knows how to drive or ever sees you

Aerik
03-06-2010, 07:18 PM
Cheap UJM-- $700

Roll of ductape-- < $6

Small portable toolkit-- <$25

Sturdy work boots with thick soles -- $120

That's what I spent to set up my first bike. Insurance was a couple hundred bucks a year. :D

Likwid
03-06-2010, 07:37 PM
I need a new pair of boots this year... I'll just buy a pair of black workboots most likely.

warpspeed
03-06-2010, 08:14 PM
0.Save your money so you can buy the bike AND the following items at once.

1. Insurance. Get a quote on the bike before you commit to buy. Call in before you hand over the money for the bike.

The better the gear the more you will won't mind wearing it. You SHOULD get the gear before the bike. I started with crappy gear and it sucked to wear I almost didn't want to wear it.

2. Helmet: Go try on helmets...then order from sportbiketrackgear.com etc. $250-400

3. Full Leather Jacket---I got my A* for $100, look for good deals. $100-300. Your going to want a Mesh leather and Mesh jacket for the spring/fall too.

4. Gauntlet Gloves...$100...VERY WELL WORTH IT.

5. Boots/shoes. $100- already priced @ local shop.

6. atleast Jeans.

7. Buy the bike.

You don't need to waste money on mods right away....Make sure you get all the safety gear.

First mods: Frame sliders.... anything else All depends on the bike you get.

Likwid
03-06-2010, 08:29 PM
"at least jeans"... is that instead of shorts? Or maybe that stylish skort you wore for most of 2009?

chevysoldier
03-06-2010, 08:30 PM
First mods: Frame sliders.... anything else All depends on the bike you get.

Really? For a street bike? Ever seen what frame sliders can do to a bike when they slide off the road? I won't put frame sliders on mine.

franc01
03-06-2010, 08:49 PM
A few more thoughts (disclaimer: my $ .02, do what you want):

Definitely invest in some good pants with protection. Studies show that the legs are the most common location of injuries to fallen riders. Wearing knee pads under my jeans saved me from a broken knee years back.

I know people are divided on the helmet issue, but a helmet can certainly save your life in certain impact scenarios. Better still, the reduction in energy reaching your brain in lesser impacts can make the difference between a concussion and the type of mild head injury that leaves you functional but "not the same person he was before the accident".

Earplugs are cheap and make your riding much more peaceful. It's not the loud pipes but the wind noise that will eventually cause you to lose some hearing.

I'm definitely looking forward to some springtime riding!

Ride safe,
Franc
CBR1000RR

Likwid
03-06-2010, 09:05 PM
Really? For a street bike? Ever seen what frame sliders can do to a bike when they slide off the road? I won't put frame sliders on mine.

He should have said "properly installed" frame sliders :) Not just screwed onto the bike :D

Jason31090
03-07-2010, 01:17 PM
Really? For a street bike? Ever seen what frame sliders can do to a bike when they slide off the road? I won't put frame sliders on mine.

I'd prefer to have mine stay on two wheels, on the road.

What are frame sliders?

A few more thoughts (disclaimer: my $ .02, do what you want):

Definitely invest in some good pants with protection. Studies show that the legs are the most common location of injuries to fallen riders. Wearing knee pads under my jeans saved me from a broken knee years back.

I know people are divided on the helmet issue, but a helmet can certainly save your life in certain impact scenarios. Better still, the reduction in energy reaching your brain in lesser impacts can make the difference between a concussion and the type of mild head injury that leaves you functional but "not the same person he was before the accident".

Earplugs are cheap and make your riding much more peaceful. It's not the loud pipes but the wind noise that will eventually cause you to lose some hearing.

I'm definitely looking forward to some springtime riding!

Ride safe,
Franc
CBR1000RR

Helmet for sure.

I'll also look into knee pads and ear plugs.

So anything else guys or is that about it?

Fonzie
03-07-2010, 01:51 PM
Try Newenough.com or the clearance stuff at the Pony

You should be able to find a quality jacket for FAR less than $ 5-700, as long as you're not hung up on having a certain brand/style

Likwid
03-07-2010, 02:16 PM
True dat, shouldn't have to spend more than 200 on a jacket, 150 if you're ok with synthetics instead of leather.

natedogg624
03-07-2010, 02:23 PM
frame sliders: pucks that are attached to the frame either directly replacing the engine mount bolts (usually need to cut the fairings -- highly recommended) or by either a re locater bracket (no need to cut the fairings -- "no cuts") strongly NOT recommended for reasons involving tweaked and snapped frames (worst case scenario, plus a good "cut" job is just as good and many people on here are experienced to help you out.

usually people will get frame sliders for when the little mistakes happen such as forgetting to put down the kickstand and the bike falls over or getting knocked over on accident (or on purpose), the bike will fall on these pucks instead of the fairings of the bike and preventing scratches. also in the severe case of a crash the bike will slide on these pucks instead of your painted fairings.

one tip over on either side will usually pay for itself.

as to the comment a few posts above, im not sure why you wouldn't put it on a street bike. i know of reasons not to put them on track bikes, but can you please post your reasonings? im curious as to your thoughts on it.

Jason31090
03-08-2010, 12:43 AM
^ Sounds good man, thanks.

drew95gt
03-08-2010, 03:12 AM
Definitely get the best gear you can afford...as well as what feels the best on you, because you want to be as comfortable as possible fully geared up so you can just enjoy the ride. Also, if you are a new rider, take the MSF course...it will teach you the basics of riding a motorcycle plus tell you how to apply these concepts in real world scenarios. You should also pick up a book like Keith Code's "Twist of the Wrist 2" and read it cover to cover. Hope this helps, this is what I have done and so far so good.

Aerik
03-08-2010, 08:20 AM
MSF courses are good stuff. Motorcycle Ohio is a great way to get some basics and your endorsement if you don't already have it. My mom and my wife are both taking the BRC in July. If you need to take it, you should sign up soon-- they're booked quite a ways out.

snodgrass23
03-08-2010, 08:40 AM
http://www.motorcyclecloseouts.com/

Another place to look for deals, look in their "Hot Deals" section. I got the same Shift leather jacket I was looking at at Iron Pony for half the price. I was able to get a textile and leather for under $300.

New Enough had some great deals on Sidi boots, but I think most of the sizes are sold out now.

Basically look around, and you should be able to get good deals on whatever you need. Try to find somewhere like Iron Pony to try them on first, and they may even be on sale there when you go.