UN arms treaty could put U.S. gun owners in foreign sights...... This is not cool.

[C-bus]

Originally Posted by JRMMiii

But he revealed he was set Wednesday to tell the
UN gathering that 58 U.S. senators had signed a letter saying that they
would refuse to ratify any treaty that includes controls over civilian
guns or ammunition.

Ratification by two-thirds of the Senate is
necessary before an international treaty negotiated by the executive
branch can become U.S. law.

^----- This is why, it'll never fly here and guns will be fine and safe. It's political posturing perpetuated by the fear mongering news media (coincidence it's foxnews? ). Go about your business, nothing to see here.

Yea, it's all Obama... blame Obama for your ignorance. Ohh, and remember the DEMOCRATICALLY-controlled Senate is the one that ISN'T taking away your guns. So obviously if those liberal bastards are actually NOT condoning gun control, there's some other secret agenda that's going on because they can "do no right" in conservative's eyes.

So, put on the tinfoil hats and let's come up with what that possible secret agenda is. And no cheating by letting Fox news tell you what you're supposed to think it is.

The ratification angle is the safe move. The smart move would be to come up with a statement about how we respect our constitution and won't allow foreign entities to dictate our rights. He might even pull in some socially liberal gun-toters. Most of us aren't particularly impressed with Romney.

Disclaimer.... socially liberal? Yes. Fiscally conservative? Even more yes, so he could resurrect James Madison and Heston and place them on his cabinet and I still wouldn't vote for him.


IMO

[twowheelsnake]

Yeah, I stopped taking this post seriously when I read the words "Fox News". Jesus people! Look outside that "news" station for your information. It's nothing but a propaganda channel...period. Hitler used these methods to gain and keep power and we know that. Yet we've all been to history class and continue to believe the dribble e see on corporate owned networks. Wake up everyone!

[twowheelsnake]

Apparently this is an old one on politifact:
http://www.politifact.com/texas/stat...lary-clinton-/

[crb]

Originally Posted by twowheelsnake

Yeah, I stopped taking this post seriously when I read the words "Fox News". Jesus people! Look outside that "news" station for your information. It's nothing but a propaganda channel...period. Hitler used these methods to gain and keep power and we know that. Yet we've all been to history class and continue to believe the dribble e see on corporate owned networks. Wake up everyone!

So true MSNBC is way more entertaining.

[Scruit]

Doesn't the treaty only deal with foreign arms trades, not domestic?

Hands up if you ever sold a gun internationally...



Didn't think so.

[C-bus]

Originally Posted by twowheelsnake

Yeah, I stopped taking this post seriously when I read the words "Fox News". Jesus people! Look outside that "news" station for your information. It's nothing but a propaganda channel...period. Hitler used these methods to gain and keep power and we know that. Yet we've all been to history class and continue to believe the dribble e see on corporate owned networks. Wake up everyone!

Will the US be asked to sign a small arms treaty in July? Yes. The rest is spin, dribble, and fear-mongering, but the issue is presenting and a response will be needed.

[Isaac's Papa]

[crb]

Originally Posted by Scruit

Doesn't the treaty only deal with foreign arms trades, not domestic?

Hands up if you ever sold a gun internationally...



Didn't think so.

Nope I've been listening to the actual clips , and not the news media spin. Some UN member countries want to restrict domestic ownership specifically in the USA. Some also want to include ammo restrictions. We will have to see what the final treaty looks like, it isn't hashed out yet. Will it include ammo or domestic private firearm ownership restrictions who knows. I'm not getting bent out of shape until I see the finalized treaty. Does it have to be passed by congress or can it be done through executive order like the border state multiple long gun Purchase reporting was?

If you don't mind I'm gonna flip over to MSNBC to get my giggles in.

[crb]

Okay so let's say the extreme happens UN passes treaty banning US private gun and ammo ownership, and congress passes it. Worst case scenario right? Just a what if not saying it is happening or will happen.

Who comes to collect the guns? Local and state police? I don't think so most won't do it in my opinion. National guard? Ha! The active duty military? I don't see it happening. FBI? Secret Service? Armed dept. Of education? Maybe.. Armed EPA? Armed Fema?

will they send UN troops?

Seriously who would come and try to take them?

[jbot]

ninjas. they'll all just be gone overnight, like anti-christmas